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Recap and fact-checking from the second Presidential debate

Live blogs and fact-checking from tonight's Presidential debate between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
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9:41 p.m.

We're wrapping up here, but here is a flavor of the instant reaction from commentators on Twitter.

9:37 p.m.

It's over! Just one more to go everyone!

9:36 p.m.

Trump takes Clinton's comment as a compliment. And he then says she "fights hard and doesn't quit," which he considers "a very good trait."

Nice answer.

9:35 p.m.

Fact check: Trump says he backs clean coal, but "clean coal" is generally seen as a myth, or at least an over-simplification. The idea is that we can build something to capture the carbon that comes out from its use.

But Time, Popular Mechanic, National Geographic and others have written about how that's incredibly complicated.

9:34 p.m.

Is there anything in the other candidate you respect?

Great question!

Hillary Clinton says she respects Donald Trump's children, who she says are very able.

9:33 p.m.

Clinton also wants America to be energy independent and is a strong advocate of renewable energy, saying she wants America to be the world's first clean energy superpower.

She says she has a comprehensive energy policy that tackles climate change while keeping the energy sector strong and the lights on, which is here.

9:32 p.m.

Next question on energy and the environment.

Trump says there's possibility for all forms of energy generation, but doesn't want it at the expense of jobs. He's also an advocate of "clean coal." He wants America to be energy independent.

Here's his energy policy.

9:30 p.m.

Who is Sidney Blumenthal? Trump has referenced him tonight and last debate. He is a journalist who is accused of having orchestrated the "birther" movement with the 2008 Clinton campaign, in order to discredit then-Senator Barack Obama.

Here's more on him from Vanity Fair.

9:28 p.m.

Trump next says he'd pick judges who would respect the Constitution of the U.S., including the 2nd Amendment which he says is "under siege" by Clinton.

He wants to pick someone in the mold of the late Justice Antonin Scalia.

9:23 p.m.

Policy point: Now onto picking the next Supreme Court Justice. Clinton said she would support someone who would keep the Roe v Wade abortion laws and marriage equality, claiming Trump would appoint someone who would reverse it.

She also wants someone who would stand up to corporate interest. She also criticizes Congress for not taking a vote on President Obama's selection.

9:21 p.m.

A question on Trump tweeting about the former Miss Universe contestant he disparaged, which he turns into a comment about Clinton's involvement in Benghazi.

9:19 p.m.

Hillary is asked about the "deplorables" comment she made about "half" of Trump supporters.

"My argument is not with his supporters, it's with him," she says, re-iterating that she has apologized for making that comment.

9:16 p.m.

Next question is about whether the candidates would be a president for "everyone."

Trump goes first and takes an economic track.

Fact check:"We have no growth in this country. There is no growth. If China has a GDP [growth] of 7 percent it's like a national catastrophe. That's like no growth."

Not true. The economy has been growing, though the recovery is happening in small increments. 2015 saw a growth in GDP of 2.4 percent, a whole percentage point over the year before, Politico notes.

9:15 p.m.

Fact check: Russia, Assad, Iran are killing ISIS, Trump says.

Here's a breakdown by CNN on who is doing what in the Middle East. The International Business Times reports in August that Russia carpet-bombing killed 150 jihadists, for example.

But, as Newsweek notes, Russia is also killing Syrian civilians.

9:12 p.m.

Policy point: Clinton says she doesn't support saying U.S. ground troops to Syria as an occupying force to prevent the humanitarian crisis.

She believes in using special forces and special trainers in the Middle East.

9:10 p.m.

One from earlier on Trump's claims about his taxes. It's hard to say whether Trump truly pays "tremendous" taxes, Bloomberg reports.

The only documentation we do have suggests he may have gotten out of paying federal taxes for 18 years, per leaked 1995 tax documents.

He suggest during the debate tonight that this was the case.

9:08 p.m.

Trump next. Here's his policy.

He advocates joining the efforts of Syria and Russia in fighting ISIS, and says he doesn't agree with his running mate Mike Pence who advocates a stronger line against Putin and Russia.

9:07 p.m.

One from earlier.

9:05 p.m.

We're onto Syria, and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo, which the online questioner likens to "the Holocaust" which the U.S. was too late to prevent.

Clinton first. Here's her policy.

She talks about calling for a no-fly zone over Syria, which she did call for in October of 2015, the day after Russian planes started bombing rebels in Syria who were fighting against President Bashar al-Assad, MSNBC reports.

9:03 p.m.

A bit more on tax plans. In both cases, it's the wealthiest would be impact, with the middle and lower classes seeing little change.

Trump would reduce the top income tax bracket from 39.6 percent to 33 percent (so a significant tax cut for the wealthiest Americans), while Clinton would raise that top tax bracket to 43.6 percent, ABC reports.

Here's a nice graph on the respective candidates' tax plans, courtesy of Tax Foundation estimates.

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9:02 p.m.

Fact check: Trump says Clinton wants to keep the carried interest loophole. She doesn't, she confirms she doesn't. It's one of her policies.

9 p.m.

8:57 p.m.

Policy point: Despite Trump's assertions that she will raise taxes for everyone, Clinton says taxes won't change for anyone earning less than $250,000.

She also refers to the "Buffett rule" on people earning more than $1 million, more on which you can read about here.

8:54 p.m.

Policy point: And we're onto taxation, with a question on making the rich pay their fair share. Trump says he'll be closing the carried interest loophole and claims Clinton should have closed it while she was a Senator, saying it's allowed people like him to take advantage of it.

He plans to cut taxes on the whole, you can find his policy here.

8:52 p.m.

A question about the Wikileaks email release of Clinton's speeches given in private, in which she referred to politicians being allowed to have "public" and "private" views. She says she was making a reference to Steven Spielberg's film "Lincoln."

Here's the email leaked via WikiLeaks. And here's the context of that Hillary Clinton quote, in which she does indeed mention the movie "Lincoln."

Here's the excerpt from her speech.

"You just have to sort of figure out how to -- getting back to that word, "balance" -- how to balance the public and the private efforts that are necessary to be successful, politically, and that's not just a comment about today. That, I think, has probably been true for all of our history, and if you saw the Spielberg movie, Lincoln, and how he was maneuvering and working to get the 13th Amendment passed, and he called one of my favorite predecessors, Secretary Seward, who had been the governor and senator from New York, ran against Lincoln for president, and he told Seward, I need your help to get this done. And Seward called some of his lobbyist friends who knew how to make a deal, and they just kept going at it. I mean, politics is like sausage being made. It is unsavory, and it always has been that way, but we usually end up where we need to be. But if everybody's watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least. So, you need both a public and a private position."

8:50 p.m.

Fact check: Earlier Trump said that Clinton's plan would see a 550 percent increase in Syrian refugees coming to the country.

The Obama Administration recently began plans to admit 10,000 refugees. Clinton is proposing accepting 65,000, which would be a 550 percent increase.

8:48 p.m.

Fact check: Hillary Clinton claims Trump's plan for a temporary ban on Muslim immigration is being used as a terrorist recruiting tool.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer reports this is true, his comments featured in an Al-Shabaab recruitment video.

8:47 p.m.

Hillary says Donald Trump supported the Iraq War initially. He says he didn't.

He did, and it's been proved by pretty much everyone.

8:44 p.m.

Fact check: Earlier Donald Trump said Canadians are crossing the border to take advantage of American care.

Canadians DO cross the border for medical care, but far below the numbers rumors suggest. Most Canadian visits to American clinics are emergency situations; i.e. they hurt themselves on vacation and need to go to the E.R., according to AARP.

That said, US News and World Report says there WAS an increase in 2014 of Canadians leaving their country for healthcare (though not just in the U.S.); about 52,500

8:43 p.m.

Fact check: Donald Trump has repeated the claim about seeing "bombs all over the apartment" of the San Bernardino attackers.

Slate dug into this earlier this year, and cited multiple examples that call it untrue. It seems to come from a local ABC report that someone saw a lot of packages being delivered there.

8:41 p.m.

Clinton next: "It's short-sighted and dangerous to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric as Donald Trump has."

It's important for Muslims to feel wanted and included, and "part of our Homeland Security." She adds that she plans to defeat ISIS in coalition with Muslim nations.

Here are her policies on security.

8:39 p.m.

Policy point: A question on what will happen to America's 3.3 million Muslim population, and Trump goes first. He says there is a problem with "radical islamic terror" in America.

Here are Trump's policies on immigration and ISIS.

8:35 p.m.

Fact check: Donald Trump says health insurance costs, deductibles, co-pays have sky-rocketed under Obamacare.

Time reports that monthly payments have gone up 24 percent in 2010, while people are now paying $1,318 upfront on average out of pocket before insurance kicks in. It was $584 ten years ago.

So yes, it's much more expensive than it was.

8:33 p.m.

Policy point: Trump next. He wants insurance companies to be able to work across state lines, to increase competition. He says Clinton wants to go to a single-payer plan, like Canada, which he says wouldn't work.

He calls for it to be repealed and replaced.

Here's Trump's healthcare policy.

8:30 p.m.

Policy point: Yay, a policy! A question on the Affordable Care Act, or Obamacare.

Clinton says that she does want to rein in the costs of premiums and co-pays, but does cite some of the benefits of the act, including that health insurance can't deny you coverage for certain conditions.

You can read Clinton's healthcare policy right here.

8:29 p.m.

Fact check: Trump accused Hillary Clinton of circulating photos of Senator Barack Obama in traditional cultural garb in order to discredit him during the 2008 primaries.

At the time, Clinton campaign officials declined to say "whether or not a Clinton staffer had circulated the photos," according to Heat Street. But more recently, Clinton has denied this.

8:27 p.m.

Fact check: Donald Trump mentioned allegations of sexual misconduct against former president Bill Clinton. The Washington Post has a rundown of consensual affairs, as well as claims of sexual assault.

And here's another one.

It should be noted that Clinton was never found guilty in court regarding any of the allegations.

8:25 p.m.

Other than a few mentions towards the start, there has been virtually no discussion on policy. It's mostly been raking over the various aspersions cast at both candidates over the past few months.

8:22 p.m.

Fact check: Hillary Clinton says that Trump has never apologized to the Khans, the Gold Star family of a deceased serviceman. CNN reports that this is true, according to the Khans.

Fact check: Trump says that Bernie Sanders signed on to support the devil. We can't be absolutely certain of course, but we're pretty sure this isn't true.

8:19 p.m.

Fact check: Trump is bringing up Bill Clinton's past. He's going there. And he brings up the women he brought with him to the debate tonight, as well as a woman who was assaulted by a person later defended by Clinton when she was a lawyer.

He claims she laughed at the victim after the case, but Factcheck disputes that, saying she did laugh, but it was when she was recalling unusual aspects of the case.

8:17 p.m.

Trump also referred to hikes in health insurance premiums as a result of the Affordable Care Act, citing hikes of 68, 59 and 71 percent. He's right, but not telling the whole truth.

8:15 p.m.

Fact check: Donald Trump refers to America as having a $800 billion trade deficit.

According to Trading Economics, United States goods and services deficit, or trade deficit, was $40 billion as of August 2016.

The Bureau of Economic Analysis says the same.

But last year, the overall trade deficit was $500 billion, Politifact reports, and when the figures are based in goods alone and not services, the deficit was at $763 billion, so only a slight exaggeration.

8:11 p.m.

Donald Trump is asked about the "Trump tapes," and despite apologizing for it, says that it was "locker room talk" and turns the conversation, somehow, onto ISIS.

He does say he's embarrassed about it.

"I have great respect for women, no one has more respect for women than I do." Anderson Cooper presses him, and he says he's never forced himself on women.

8:08 p.m.

Trump next. "I agree with everything she said," he says.

Erm, fact check? Nonetheless Trump starts off contrite. Saying America is a great country but is making mistakes, going back to some of his favorite talking points from the first debate, Obamacare, the Iran deal, the trade deficit, and inner city crime.

8:06 p.m.

First question is about whether the two candidates are good role models to the nation's children, citing the proceedings of the first debate.

Clinton proceeds to give a brief overview of her whole platform, touching on various subjects. Here's a link to her policies.

8:05 p.m.

And here are the candidates, no handshake this time.

8 p.m.

So the format is a bit different to the first one. It's a "Town Hall" debate so half the questions will come from the audience. The other half will come from moderators Martha Raddatz of ABC and CNN's Anderson Cooper.

Bill Clinton's in the house, by the way.

7:45 p.m.

We're 15 minutes from the start of the Presidential Debate and already something momentous has happened this evening which gives an inkling of the line Donald Trump will be taking tonight.

Earlier this evening he appeared at a press conference with three women who have previously accused Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, of sexually assaulting them, as Fox News reports.

Trump, of course, is expected to answer questions on his own actions toward women following the release of tapes in which he makes several lewd suggestions about women, and the way he treats them.

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